Ab Immemorabili
Ab Immemorabili - From Time Beyond Memory
Ancient wisdom meets modern minds in this philosophical exploration podcast from The Most Ancient Anamnetic Order of Trikala. Join hosts Drake and Holly as they journey through the hidden patterns connecting consciousness, transformation, and timeless truth.
Created for both MAAOoT students and acolytes walking the path of the pillars and curious seekers exploring life's deeper questions, each episode offers layers of insight accessible to all. For those within the Order, these conversations illuminate and expand upon your transformational journey, providing additional context, stories, and perspectives that complement your studies. For those simply curious about philosophy and consciousness, this podcast serves as an invitation to explore humanity's greatest wisdom traditions.
Drake brings scholarly depth and historical perspective, whilst Holly grounds these ancient insights in practical, lived experience. Together they weave insights from East and West - from Greek Stoics to Buddhist masters, from Egyptian mysteries to forgotten Olmec wisdom - examining how these traditions speak to our contemporary search for meaning and transformation.
Ab Immemorabili isn't about learning new information - it's about remembering what you've always known. Through engaging conversations, thought experiments, and storytelling, we explore the paradoxes of consciousness, the nature of transformation, and the universal patterns that appear across all wisdom traditions.
Whether you're an Order student deepening your understanding, a serious seeker, or simply someone sensing there's more to existence than meets the eye, this podcast offers fresh perspectives on humanity's deepest questions. No prior philosophical background required - just an open mind and a willingness to question.
The wisdom you seek has always been within you. You're not learning it. You're remembering it.
New episodes released regularly, and now to the public generally.
Contact: podcast@maaoot.org | www.maaoot.org
Episodes
6 days ago
6 days ago
Why does humanity's oldest story end with the hero losing everything—and what wisdom lies hidden in that defeat?
Drake and Holly explore the Epic of Gilgamesh, the 4,000-year-old tale where the mighty hero fails at every major quest. Unable to prevent his friend's death or achieve immortality, Gilgamesh's cascade of failures reveals profound teachings about mortality, meaning, and what truly lasts. The story that began literature itself suggests that failure might be our greatest teacher and that accepting limits could be the key to transcendence.
Key Topics:
Why the gods created Enkidu as Gilgamesh's equal
The transformation of grief into existential terror
Failing the simplest test—staying awake for seven days
The snake that steals immortality and what it represents
How walls outlast heroes and stories outlast walls
Silicon Valley's Gilgamesh complex
Why failure might be wisdom's prerequisite
Featured Concepts:
Two-thirds divine: Gilgamesh's ratio - mostly god but crucially mortal
The plant of youth: Lost to a snake, granting cyclical renewal instead of escape
Uruk's walls: Human achievement that outlasts human life
Essential Quote: "Gilgamesh failed to become immortal but succeeded in becoming eternal. He failed as a character but succeeded as a story. He failed in his quest but succeeded in showing us why the quest itself matters more than its achievement."
Practical Takeaway: Some truths can only be learned through failure. Accepting mortality doesn't diminish life—it gives it meaning. What lasts isn't the individual but what flows through us: connections, creations, stories that help others understand their own journey.
Key References:
The Epic of Gilgamesh, various translations
Mesopotamian mythology and cosmology
The flood narrative and its cultural influence
Ancient Near Eastern wisdom literature
About Ab Immemorabili: Ancient wisdom meets modern minds. Join Drake & Holly for explorations of philosophy, consciousness, and transformation.
Contact: podcast@maaoot.org | www.maaoot.org
The wisdom you seek has always been within you. You're not learning it. You're remembering it.
Friday Dec 12, 2025
189: The Vedic Fire Altar - Consciousness as Sacred Architecture
Friday Dec 12, 2025
Friday Dec 12, 2025
What if consciousness could be rebuilt brick by brick through sacred geometry?
Drake and Holly explore the Agnicayana ritual - humanity's oldest continuously performed ceremony where ancient India discovered that constructing precise geometric structures in the physical world reconstructs awareness itself. Through 1,009 carefully placed bricks, specific mantras, and mathematical relationships that predate Pythagoras, practitioners have been architecting consciousness for over 3,000 years.
Key Topics:
Building consciousness through precise geometric patterns
Five layers representing levels of reality and awareness
Mathematical formulae encoding spacetime relationships
Fire as the transformative principle of consciousness
Why the altar must be destroyed and rebuilt larger each year
Sacred sound technology and mantra programming
How this influenced yoga, chakras, and Tantra
Featured Concepts:
Agnicayana: The fire altar ritual that restructures consciousness through sacred architecture
Purusha: The cosmic being whose body becomes all creation
Chit-Agni: The fire of pure awareness that transforms experience into understanding
Essential Quote: "The Vedic seers understood that consciousness has architecture, and that architecture can be rebuilt. Every brick matters, every breath counts, every mantra shapes the final structure of awareness."
Practical Takeaway: Consciousness isn't fixed but has structure that can be intentionally rebuilt through precise practice. Whether through physical construction, visualisation, or other technologies, we can architect our awareness - but genuine transformation requires patience, precision, and the willingness to destroy and rebuild.
Key References:
The Shulba Sutras (geometric altar texts)
The Purusha Sukta (Rig Veda hymn)
Vedic mathematical principles
Modern neuroscience on meditation and neuroplasticity
About Ab Immemorabili: Ancient wisdom meets modern minds. Join Drake & Holly for explorations of philosophy, consciousness, and transformation.
Contact: podcast@maaoot.org | www.maaoot.org
The wisdom you seek has always been within you. You're not learning it. You're remembering it.
Friday Dec 05, 2025
188: Eleusinian Mysteries - What Happened in Ancient Greece's Secret Rites
Friday Dec 05, 2025
Friday Dec 05, 2025
How did ancient Greeks keep the ultimate secret for 2,000 years—and why did breaking it mean death?
Drake and Holly explore the Eleusinian Mysteries, antiquity's most profound spiritual tradition that transformed everyone from slaves to emperors. For two millennia, initiates emerged claiming they no longer feared death, yet not one revealed what actually happened in the sacred hall. Through myth, possible psychedelics, and masterful ritual design, the mysteries offered direct experience of death and rebirth that changed lives permanently.
Key Topics:
The absolute secrecy that lasted two thousand years
The kykeon: ritual drink and the ergot hypothesis
Plato, Marcus Aurelius, and the intellectual elite as initiates
Death and rebirth through the Persephone myth
Sacred drama, divine light, and consciousness technology
Why Christianity ended the mysteries
Modern psychedelic research validating ancient claims
Featured Concepts:
Kykeon: The mysterious ritual drink that may have contained psychoactive compounds
Telesterion: The great hall where three thousand underwent transformation together
Hierophant: The high priest who revealed the sacred mysteries
Essential Quote: "The initiate psychologically, perhaps neurologically, experienced their own death and return. They didn't just understand intellectually that life and death are part of a cycle - they experienced themselves as that cycle."
Practical Takeaway: True transformation requires more than understanding - it needs experience, community, and a container. The mysteries remind us that some truths can't be spoken, only undergone, and that proper set and setting can facilitate profound, lasting change.
Key References:
The Eleusinian Mysteries historical accounts
Albert Hofmann's research on ergot and the kykeon
Modern psychedelic studies on ego dissolution
Plato's Phaedo and mystery religion references
About Ab Immemorabili: Ancient wisdom meets modern minds. Join Drake & Holly for explorations of philosophy, consciousness, and transformation.
Contact: podcast@maaoot.org | www.maaoot.org
The wisdom you seek has always been within you. You're not learning it. You're remembering it.
Friday Nov 28, 2025
187: The Olmec Enigma - The Mother Culture's Forgotten Wisdom
Friday Nov 28, 2025
Friday Nov 28, 2025
What if the most influential civilisation in the Americas is also the most mysterious?
Drake and Holly explore the Olmec civilisation - the "mother culture" of Mesoamerica whose colossal stone heads and were-jaguar imagery reveal a sophisticated understanding of consciousness transformation that predates Greek philosophy by a millennium. Through jade mirrors and jaguar shamanism, the Olmecs developed technologies of transformation we're only beginning to understand.
Key Topics:
Colossal heads as portraits of transformed consciousness
Were-jaguar symbolism and shapeshifting practices
Entheogens and consciousness-altering technologies
Sacred geometry in Olmec architecture
The invention of the Mesoamerican ballgame as cosmic ritual
Magnetite mirrors as portals to other realities
Why the Olmecs mysteriously dispersed rather than collapsed
Featured Concepts:
Were-jaguar: The human-feline hybrid representing consciousness transformation
Axis Mundi: The cosmic tree connecting underworld, earth, and heavens
Olmecatl: "Rubber people"—creators of the first synthetic material
Essential Quote: "While ancient Greeks were developing concepts of fixed essential forms, the Olmecs were depicting fluid transformation between states of being. They understood consciousness as something that could shift between human and more-than-human states."
Practical Takeaway: The Olmecs remind us that profound wisdom exists outside familiar philosophical frameworks. Transformation isn't just an idea to understand but a process to undergo, using whatever tools—plants, sound, ritual, symbol—facilitate the journey.
Key References:
Olmec archaeological sites: La Venta, San Lorenzo
The Cascajal Block (undeciphered Olmec writing)
John Carlson's research on magnetite mirrors
Mesoamerican ballgame origins
About Ab Immemorabili: Ancient wisdom meets modern minds. Join Drake & Holly for explorations of philosophy, consciousness, and transformation.
Contact: podcast@maaoot.org | www.maaoot.org
The wisdom you seek has always been within you. You're not learning it. You're remembering it.
Friday Nov 21, 2025
186: Lost Libraries - What Burned in Alexandria and Why It Matters
Friday Nov 21, 2025
Friday Nov 21, 2025
What if humanity's greatest tragedy wasn't a single fire, but a slow forgetting that continues today?
Drake and Holly explore the burning of the Library of Alexandria - not as one catastrophic event, but as a pattern of knowledge loss that haunts human civilisation. From the Tigris running black with ink to NASA's unreadable tapes, they uncover how wisdom dies and, more importantly, how it survives.
Key Topics:
Multiple destructions of Alexandria over centuries
Lost Greek tragedies: seeing antiquity through a keyhole
The House of Wisdom and Nalanda: recurring patterns of loss
Digital fragility: why modern knowledge may be more vulnerable
Mystery schools and hidden preservation methods
Embodied knowledge vs stored information
The phoenix library: wisdom that rises from its own ashes
Featured Concepts:
Anamnesis: Not learning but remembering - rediscovering eternal truths
The Inner Citadel: Stoic concept of indestructible internal wisdom
Indra's Net: Knowledge as a distributed network with no single point of failure
Essential Quote: "We're not just repositories of books. We're destroying the community of scholars, the oral traditions, the teaching lineages, the methods of interpretation passed from master to student."
Practical Takeaway: Become a living library. Don't just collect information—embody wisdom. Make yourself a carrier of knowledge that can't burn, practices that transform, understanding that survives catastrophe.
Key References:
The Library of Alexandria historical accounts
Carl Sagan, Cosmos
The Nag Hammadi Library discoveries
Nassim Taleb, Antifragile
About Ab Immemorabili: Ancient wisdom meets modern minds. Join Drake & Holly for explorations of philosophy, consciousness, and transformation.
Contact: podcast@maaoot.org | www.maaoot.org
The wisdom you seek has always been within you. You're not learning it. You're remembering it.
Friday Nov 14, 2025
185: The Egyptian Book of the Dead - A Manual for Living
Friday Nov 14, 2025
Friday Nov 14, 2025
What if the most famous ancient text about death was never about dying at all?
Drake and Holly uncover the profound mistranslation that's hidden the Egyptian Book of the Dead's true purpose for centuries. Far from being funeral literature, the Pert Em Hru ("Coming Forth by Day") is actually humanity's oldest surviving manual for navigating consciousness transformation - a practical guide for the living, not the dead.
Key Topics:
• The mistranslation that changed everything
• Heart weighing as daily psychological practice
• Death as transformation, not termination
• Osirian mysteries and conscious rebirth
• Multiple souls: ka, ba, akh, and shadow integration
• Sound technology in Egyptian temples
• Parallels with Tibetan Buddhism and near-death experiences
Featured Concepts:
Ma'at: The feather of truth against which all hearts are weighed
Duat: The hidden realm we traverse nightly in sleep
Coming Forth by Day: Emerging from unconsciousness into awakened life
Essential Quote: "Every night when you sleep, you 'die.' Every time you let go of an old identity, you 'die.' Every profound transformation is a death and rebirth."
Practical Takeaway: Use life's transitions consciously. Recognise that you're constantly dying and being reborn—in sleep, in change, in growth. The Egyptian map still works.
Key References:
• The Egyptian Book of the Dead, trans. E.A. Wallis Budge
• The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying, Sogyal Rinpoche
• Raymond Moody, Life After Life
• C.G. Jung, writings on Egyptian symbolism
About Ab Immemorabili: Ancient wisdom meets modern minds. Join Drake & Holly for explorations of philosophy, consciousness, and transformation.
Contact: podcast@maaoot.org | www.maaoot.org
The wisdom you seek has always been within you. You're not learning it. You're remembering it.
Friday Nov 07, 2025
184: The Emerald Tablet - Decoding "As Above, So Below"
Friday Nov 07, 2025
Friday Nov 07, 2025
What if reality operates on just one principle, endlessly reflected? What if you are both the mirror and what it reflects?
Drake and Holly decode the thirteen cryptic lines of the Emerald Tablet, revealing how its central teaching—"as above, so below"—appears everywhere from fractals to consciousness, from quantum physics to personal transformation. This ancient key to correspondence might explain how inner and outer worlds mirror each other perfectly.
Key Topics:
The mysterious origins of Hermes Trismegistus and his tablet
Fractals, holograms, and modern science validating ancient wisdom
How correspondence works in both directions—up and down
The alchemical family: Sun, Moon, Wind, and Earth as transformation
Why Newton studied alchemy more than physics
Sacred architecture as correspondence technology
Practical applications of correspondence in daily life
Featured Concepts:
Correspondence: The principle that patterns repeat across all scales of reality
The One Thing: The unified principle behind all apparent multiplicity
Solve et Coagula: Dissolve and rebuild—the pattern of all transformation
Hermes Trismegistus: The thrice-great state of integrated consciousness
Essential Quote: "You're not in the universe; you're a localised pattern of the universe itself. When you breathe, the universe breathes. You are the correspondence - the meeting point of heaven and earth."
Practical Takeaway: Look for patterns across all levels of your experience. When something appears in your life, ask where else this pattern shows up - in your body, thoughts, relationships. Remember: changing any level affects all levels through correspondence.
Key References:
The Emerald Tablet of Hermes Trismegistus
Carl Jung, Psychology and Alchemy
The Corpus Hermeticum
Paul Devereux, Research on archaeoacoustics
About Ab Immemorabili: Ancient wisdom meets modern minds. Join Drake & Holly for explorations of philosophy, consciousness, and transformation.
Contact: podcast@maaoot.org | www.maaoot.org
The wisdom you seek has always been within you. You're not learning it. You're remembering it.
Friday Oct 31, 2025
183: The Cave You're Already In - Plato's Allegory for Modern Times
Friday Oct 31, 2025
Friday Oct 31, 2025
What if your entire reality is just shadows on a wall? What if your news feed is Plato's Cave?
Drake and Holly explore Plato's timeless Cave allegory and its startling relevance to our digital age. From social media as shadow-puppetry to the painful journey of awakening, they reveal how we're all prisoners watching screens, mistaking shadows for reality - and why escape is both possible and terrifying.
Key Topics:
Plato's Cave as prophecy for the digital age
Social media as modern shadow-puppetry
Why people resist awakening and attack truth-tellers
The fractal nature of caves within caves
The philosopher's duty to return
How to recognise shadows in your own life
Why escape might be about remembering, not moving
Featured Concepts:
The Cave: Plato's metaphor for the prison of ignorance we mistake for reality
Anamnesis: Learning as remembering what the soul already knows
Shadow-knowledge: Information mistaken for wisdom, opinions mistaken for truth
The Philosopher's Return: The duty to help others escape, despite their resistance
Essential Quote: "You're not the prisoner watching shadows; you're the light that makes seeing possible. The journey out isn't spatial but ontological. You don't move; you remember."
Practical Takeaway: Start noticing what you "know" that's actually just repeated opinion. Question your shadow-knowledge. Turn toward whatever seems most real, most luminous, most alive—even if you can't see the sun yet, you can always face toward greater light.
Key References:
Plato, The Republic (Book VII)
The Wachowskis, The Matrix
Noam Chomsky, Manufacturing Consent
Buddhist concept of the bodhisattva vow
About Ab Immemorabili: Ancient wisdom meets modern minds. Join Drake & Holly for explorations of philosophy, consciousness, and transformation.
Contact: podcast@maaoot.org | www.maaoot.org
The wisdom you seek has always been within you. You're not learning it. You're remembering it.
Friday Oct 24, 2025
182: Wu Wei - The Art of Effortless Action in a Forcing World
Friday Oct 24, 2025
Friday Oct 24, 2025
How do you accomplish everything by doing nothing? Why does water defeat rock every single time?
Drake and Holly explore the ancient Daoist principle of wu wei - effortless action that achieves more than force ever could. Through stories from martial arts masters, quantum physics, and everyday life, they reveal how not-forcing might be the most powerful approach to life's challenges, from difficult conversations to creative breakthroughs.
Key Topics:
• The paradox of "when nothing is done, nothing is left undone"
• Why trying harder often makes things worse
• Flow states and peak performance without effort
• Water as the ultimate teacher of power through softness
• Aikido and the art of winning without fighting
• The difference between passive floating and skilled navigation
• How modern physics confirms ancient wisdom
Featured Concepts:
Wu Wei: Not mere non-action, but action without forcing—finding the natural way
Kairos: The opportune moment when action becomes effortless
Flow State: When peak performance happens through you, not from you
The Dao: The natural intelligence that governs all things
Essential Quote: "Water doesn't compete, yet it wins every competition. It doesn't force, yet nothing can resist it. It takes the lowest place, yet it nourishes everything above it."
Practical Takeaway: Notice where you're forcing in your life—relationships, work, creativity. Experiment with removing resistance rather than adding effort. Watch how the softest approach often yields the strongest results.
Key References:
• Laozi, Daodejing
• Zhuangzi, The Zhuangzi
• Alan Watts, Various lectures on Eastern philosophy
• Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, Research on flow states
About Ab Immemorabili: Ancient wisdom meets modern minds. Join Drake & Holly for explorations of philosophy, consciousness, and transformation.
Contact: podcast@maaoot.org | www.maaoot.org
The wisdom you seek has always been within you. You're not learning it. You're remembering it.
Friday Oct 17, 2025
181: The Oracle's Paradox - When Not Knowing Makes You Wise
Friday Oct 17, 2025
Friday Oct 17, 2025
How can someone who knows nothing be declared the wisest person alive?
Drake and Holly unpack the paradox that birthed Western philosophy: the Oracle at Delphi declaring Socrates wisest precisely because he knew he knew nothing. From the Dunning-Kruger effect to Zen's beginner's mind, they explore why intellectual humility might be the highest wisdom, and how admitting ignorance opens doors that certainty keeps locked.
Key Topics
• Socrates' investigation of the Oracle's pronouncement
• The three Delphic maxims and their meanings
• Docta ignorantia across mystical traditions
• Dunning-Kruger effect and the confidence of ignorance
• Beginner's mind versus expert's mind
• The difference between grasping and receiving truth
• Why the ego defends false knowing so violently
Featured Concepts
Learned Ignorance (Docta Ignorantia): The wisdom that comes from knowing the limits of your knowledge
Beginner's Mind (Shoshin): Zen concept of approaching life with openness and freedom from preconceptions
The Elenchus: Socratic method of revealing ignorance through systematic questioning
Essential Quote
"The self that's trying to know and the self that's being known are the same thing. It's like an eye trying to see itself. The very attempt creates a paradox."
Practical Takeaway
Today, catch yourself claiming to know something you don't actually know - someone's motivation, future outcomes, or your own limitations. Practice saying "I don't know" and notice what possibilities open.
Key References
• Plato, The Apology
• The Cloud of Unknowing
• Byron Katie, The Work
• John Keats on "negative capability"
About Ab Immemorabili: Ancient wisdom meets modern minds. Join Drake & Holly for explorations of philosophy, consciousness, and transformation.
Contact: podcast@maaoot.org | www.maaoot.org
The wisdom you seek has always been within you. You're not learning it. You're remembering it.






